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    Post  Darkside Dave on Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:12 pm


    Hi Folks,

    Officially and season wise, Summer has gone and here we are once again going into Fall. Likewise, this marks the end of certain endeavors, projects and maybe even some adventures for many of us. Although I personally have not had any adventures lately, recently I have all but finished one project and I have been getting set up for the launch of two others. Of course there has also been some of the typical things going on that we do to prepare for the colder months and that has been taking a fair amount of my time.

    I was thinking that there are a lot of us that are probably in the same boat about this time of year. That probably accounts for at least part of why we are not seeing very much posting here at present. Maybe now is a good time to report in and tell us what you folks have been up to. I'm sure a lot of you have been working on projects and in some cases trying to beat the oncoming colder weather. I expect a lot of you have been to some interesting car shows and associated gatherings. So, don't be a hermit, let us in on your adventures and project progress as well as what new plans you have come up with.

    Even though I know that the first liar never has a chance I'll start this off. OK, here goes...

    It has been a good Spring and Fall here this year. Not too much rain in the Spring and it has been a mild Summer with just a few really hot days. Even though I decided it was time to get that damn SCOOBYGATOR finished and out of the way so I could start on my two '53 F-100s, I managed to get some other things accomplished although they were minor in scope. I started off in the Spring by by making my first trip to two Pull-A-Part yards in the Cleveland, Ohio area when my son Sean came up from Atlanta with his wife for a week long visit. he too has a '53 that he has yet to begin work on. The reason for the trip was to see what it was like to visit Pull-A-Part and to look for a complete Explorer das with all the instruments, controls and the heat and AC components. When we went to the second yard we found what I was looking for. Earlier in the year I found a '99 Exlorer that was pretty much gutted out that I bought for the rolling chassis. That is going to be the platform that my first '53 is going on. I am going to graft the floorpan and firewall into the '53 cab. I had seen this done with a '91 Explorer and it really turned out well. this is also a really cheap way of getting around buying all those overpriced after market pieces that never seem to fit just right. Anyway, the stripped out '99 I bought had most of the guts of the dash removed but they did leave the main structure intact and when I removed it I noticed that it was allmost a perfect fit to put in my '53 cab. The one I got form Pull-A-Part is in excellent shape with all the stuff in it. I also got the steering colunm and all the wiring haness including the stuff under the hood and the power boxes. Since I am using the '99's firwall all this stuff is a direct plug-in.

    We spent the rest of the week's visit working in the shop stripping out three different donor vehicles, all of which are going to contribute to both of my '53 projects as well as my son's '53. It was a great time and I can't wait until we do it again. My son is an only child and we always have been quite close and have done garage type stuff since he was old enough to be out of diapers. That was 38 years ago. We talk on the phone just about every day and I really wish he lived closer than 600 miles away.

    The balance of the Summer was spent working on getting the Scoobygator finished. I have no use for this thing and I really want to sell it. It was built because I just wanted to see if I could do it and because I could think of nothing else to do with the Subaru that a friend gave me. Save for a few minor adjustments it is finished and I have it up for sale. I have been driving it on little test drives every day while tweaking this and that. I want to get some video of it to put on YouTube. When I do I will let you folks know. It's a fun toy to play with but it would really be at home on a farm or ranch. I barely have a half acre here so I really don't need it. besides, I have my old '91 Explorer fort a yard mule to drag the stuff around I work on. You can see the SCOOBYGATOR by clicking on it here or by going to www.pvpmedia.com/SG1.htm .

    I have also spent a good portion of my Summer time getting the shop in better order to accomodate my upcomiong projects. One thing I did was get that 1,400 pound monster set of pinch rolls inside and getting it in good operating order and putting a gear motor on it to replace that big old hand crank. It will do up to a 50" wide piece of 16GA sheet metal down to a to a 2 inch radius. It will be great to roll curved panels on and will do a lot thicker sheet if it is narrower. I bought the thing two years ago for $75.00. I also have to get my my bigger South Bend lathe back together.

    In the last two weeks I have been making preperations fo the bad weather to come by getting a few of the dead vehicles moved in or near the shop so I can easily work on them. I am also just about ready to pull the '99 Explorer rolling chassis into position outside to do the pressure washing and sandblasting. I will pull the floorpan/firewall off of it first because the bottom side of it needs cleaned too. I also have the 351W with tranny and transfer case mounted on a trailer base that I am going to mount in the explorer chassis. I will also be pressure washing and samdblasting it. After that the first step will be getting it all mounted in the chassis and fitting the floor pan and firewall back on. Next will be fitting and grafting the cab to the floorpan and firewall. Luckily I have a very bad extra '53 cab that I will be using to practice cut on. It's not worth fixing or saving with exceptions of a few sections that I will end up using in my trucks. I first plan to brace it well to the correct dimensions and then I will cut away all the stuff in the way and test fit it to the Explorer floorpan/firewall. I have decide to wait until mow to do the start of this project because I have to get all suited up for the sandblasting and pressure washing wor which I hate doing in hot weather. This is just the right weather for this work, not to hot, not too cold.

    My other '53 is going to be what I like to refer to as my "Chick Freindly" truck. This one is going to be for my wife. This is all part of my diabolical plan to get her involved and that way she will be doing the interior trim work for both trucks. {Devious ain't I???) It is also going to be a bit more economy minded to operate. I bought a complete '97 Aerostar with electronic all wheel drive. I plan on putting the entire drive train, suspension snd steering on a custom built box tube chassis which I will mount my other '53 cab on. While the primary emphasis is going to be on the above mentioned '53 I will also be doing some minor work on it at the same time.

    As you can see, I have a full plate in front of me. The real trick is going to be getting it all done before I croak or get too damn old and infirm to do this stuff. Somewhere in all this I still need to get some work for others done in the shop and start doing more transport work. Somebody has to pay for all this nonsense. If all that isn't enough, I have to pull the VGT turbo off my '03 F-350 and get it reconditioned. That mainly amounts to a very tedius R&R and a thorough breakdown and cleaning job. Those VGT's get clogged up with crap on the exhaust side and the variable vanes get stuck in the max boost position. With no waste gate this is a real problem. It's hard to believe, but these things can make enough boost to rupture the intercooler.

    OK, as it is plain to see, I have plenty to do and I still found time to write this. So, as I see it, there are no excuses. get to that keyboard and tell us what you have done this Summer and what your plans are for new projects. we need some participation here. I have read that there is nothing going on here. There won't be if you don't contribute. So, lets see some posts and pictures. if you need help with the pictures just PM or e-mail me. I can get then on for you if you can't.

    Later Folks...


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    Post  FORDBOYpete on Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:23 pm

    Hey Dave,
    I check in as often as I can, But I stay time-bound most of the time. Summer may have passed, but it's still in the 80's and sunny here and winter never really comes.
    I have a lot of activities coming up between now and the Christmas Holidays. Air show in Late October, Veterans Day Parade we put on Vet's Day Weekend, a huge Hangar Dance with a Swing Band and the Big Band sound where people come in period uniforms, costumes & period vehicles. This year we plan to have a AT-6 Texan, A Stearman Bi Plane & a B-25 "H" Type Bomber, along with everything else. I'm the guy that "runs the show" so to speak and involved over my head. It takes more time than I really want to spend but when it's all happening, it somehow seems worth it to me because of all the people who participate and really have a good time in the events we put on.

    I took a day off today to play with my Aerostar. It needed attention Among other things I bridge gapped one of my brand new double platmun plugs, and since it is new, I didn't think to look there until I went through a whole Diag' sequence and the Plugs were all that was left. It was #1 Cylinder but that req's the vehicle to go up and the L/F wheel to come off just to see the plug. . . Fortunately I pulled #1 first and it was the cause of the miss I had developed after doing a bunch of other work I have been talking about. I was sick when it started to miss again after only a few hundred miles. . . . but it runs like a raped ape again. . . . Hasn't done that in months!
    I'll keep coming back & after new years I ought to have some time to spend for my self, I hope. . . Hah ha ha

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    Post  Darkside Dave on Tue Sep 29, 2009 8:24 pm


    Hi Pete,
    Actually, I am aware of your schedule and I am glad to hear from you whenever you get the time. By the same token, you have never mentioned the lack of activity here either. I was not pointing a finger in anyone's direction. I simply wanted to point out to those who express an observation of no activity, that they are the ones who make the activity if it is there. I get the impression that everyone is waiting for someone else to post. Unfortunately, it just doesn't work that way.

    Good luck with big bash you are planning. Maybe you can call up Steve Coonts, the ex-Navy pilot, who flew Intruders and wrote Flight of the Intruder, and get him to fly in with his yellow Staerman bi-plane. That wou8ld ad a little spark to your party.

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    Post  havi on Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:08 pm

    It certainly hit Fall weather here yesterday, and looks like it won't give up til Winter. That said, I'm wrapping up the trailer house teardown, and should have that done this week or so. Secondly, I will be prepping my Bronco for its plowing duties. It needs a new brake line and 3 lug studs, for starts. After that, it's typical Winter prep stuff like putting away the riding mower, etc... Then it's on to enduring the cold. Still waiting for work to go full time, and won't be doing anything until things pick up. When/if they do, I'll be heading into my garage to get new black pipe air lines put in, and a dryer, so I can get set up for sand and soda blasting next Spring. Then it's on to making a body cart for the Fairlane, and ATV trailer/engine testing stand. That should allow me to occupy my time while bouncing between vehicles next year....in theory, lol. Otherwise, I'll spend my time in the garage hanging shelves, cleaning off the benchtop, and other little things I've been putting off. Just basically getting the garage set up more like a shop, as the new garage ain't gonna happen anytime soon like I had hoped.
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    Post  Lowlid on Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:33 am

    I haven't accomplished much on the F100 that I can brag about. Some minor drive train work, some sanding and priming and that's about it. I did hang the fenders and tailgate back on the bed so that they wouldn't get damaged laying around the shop. Kind of nice to see some of the truck in one color, even if it is only primer. I still haven't primed my roll pans.







    I also decided to build my new trailer mounted engine test stand. I wanted to be able to take the stand to the engine that I would be running instead of people bringing it to my shop.

    I had enough stuff laying around the shop to throw together a small trailer. About the only material I bought was new 2" square tubing for the engine stand, and a few trailer parts like springs, hitch, fenders and wheels.

    I've still got a lot of details to work out before I can blow it back apart and paint it.











    I've also got to fab a roll-around dolly for the stand to park on when it is not on the trailer. Also got to figure out a hidden hitch for my F100 now.

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    Post  Darkside Dave on Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:54 am


    Havi,

    I know where you're comin' from Man... I think a lot of us are experiencing some delays and hold backs due to the current recession. I too would like to build another garage down back where my donors are resting now but I don't think it wise at this time even though I have access to the monetary resources. I need to pull some money in with my little retirement side businesses. That source is also greatly affected by the recession. Over the years I have learned that it pays to do whatever you can during these slack times because you will benifit form your effort when things get better again. I think we are slowly on our way up again put there is still a long hard climb ahead of us. I have been through all this several times before. Hang in there Man. Thanks for posting.

    Andrew,

    Thanks for the update. I wondered what you were up to lately. What a great bunch of pictures Man... I like your engine stand. I assume that little trailer it is on was built for some other purpose. It made me think about the rig I threw together quickly to put the 351W on I pulled from a donor for my truck. By comparrison to what you have it looks like a left over from "Junk Yard Wars". I had an old cobbled up trailer base that was under one of the old Lincoln SA-200 welding machines I restored that was just sitting around here doing nothing. I did a quickie weld job with pieces of scrap to mount the entire enginem tranny and transfer case on it. I can also use it as a test stand. First I am going to strip the mess down and pressure wash and sandblast it. I should be doing that in a week or so. I will probably be posting some before, during and after pictures. When you see them you will probably die laughing at that thing. That engine really ran good, had good oil pressure and did not smoke. I think I will just clean it up, put in a performance RV cam and maybe lifters. I have a good four barrel carb and an aluminum intake for it as well as some mew chrome valve covers for a little bling. Mabe some day after the truck is done I will pull the engine and do a complete rebuild with some high performance stuff.

    OK, it's time to get off my duff and do something.

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    Post  Lowlid on Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:03 pm

    Dave,

    I actually built the trailer for the test stand, but I threw a quick coat of paint on it because it was going to have to sit outside for a while. After looking at the trailer, I decided it could serve as a motorcycle trailer with a little modification( here we go again!!!). I'll just post up some pictures when I finally get it done.

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    Post  charger on Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:53 pm

    looks good lowlid!!! i`ve touched my truck a whopping 2 hours this summer!! pretty sad! anyway been busy fixing some of my stuff to sell it to provide funds for house stuff!! ended up partially finishing my basement so my wife can start doing day care again,bought a used play structure for the kids that had to be moved, my lot is just dirt right now so i`m doing curbing,concrete walkways,pads ect (all by hand with a electric mixer), planted trees, just getting it all ready to put a skim of dirt and plant grass,helping a budy renovate a trailer (new windows,siding ect) actually i`m doing 95% of the work,he just likes sitting around! and thats about it! trucks gonna have to wait till i get a bit more funding, i do have most of the stuff for it so i can at least get some of it done, have a list of stuff i have to get at the wreckers which i haven`t been to any of them this year! not even a car show!!
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    Post  Darkside Dave on Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:16 pm


    Hi Charger,

    Your mention of that electric mixer brought back some painfull memories. About 25 years ago when we lived way out in the sticks, me, my wife and then 14 year old son hauled gravel, sand and cement which we mixed in that little electric mixer. It seemed like it took forever to pour a basement floor and replace some old footings. We were so far out and the bridges were so bad the concrete trucks wouldn't come there. I don't think I'm up to handling a day of that work now. Better you than me I guess.

    I hope tou get that stuff done soon and get back in the garage where you belong.

    Later Man...


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    Post  Darkside Dave on Sat Oct 03, 2009 9:48 am


    Hi Folks,

    After almost fifty years of procrastination and several opportunities I finally joined a local car club. I remember as far back as in high school I was tempted to join a local club that went by the name of Road Knights, (I suspect there were a lot of them by that name). What I remember most is that they all had cool looking club jackets and most of them tried to look like the Fonz. Well actually, ten tears later the Fonz tried to look like them. I’m not sure, but I think a lot of the guys in this club are those guys from back then. Only now they are a bunch of overweight, out of shape guys that smoke a lot and drink a lot of beer, and some of them still have the cars they had back then. But hey, they seemed like a pretty decent bunch of guys and they welcomed me. That alone says a lot about their tolerance as I am not the kind of guy who is into clubs and organizations. For me, at this point, this is more about preserving a culture with a different way of thinking and doing things. So far they haven’t mentioned an initiation or asked me to kill anybody. The club name is The Rollin’ Oldies Car Club. I’m not sure if that was intended to be descriptive of the club members or the cars. I’ll be reporting more on this as time passes and I attend more meetings.

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    Post  FORDBOYpete on Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:46 am

    Low Lid,
    That's a far out F-100 you got going on there. I see some pretty fine metal work and great custom Ideas. Whenever I catch a job like that I have to comment positively on the quality & workmanship involved. BTW, Same goes for the engine test bed trailer.

    Being the glutton for punishment & work overload that I am I got my butt into another project I couldn't let pass by. I am involved BIG TIME @ a NAVAL AIR STATION MUSEUM. We picked up an '80 P-3500 Utility Van, with a Union City aluminum 20'-0", "Step Van" body. In fact it's a Dandee Bread & Little Debbie snack products delivery truck with a wore our, beat 350SB & "smoked" TH350-A/T, I mean "wasted". It sat in Co the "junk yard", What we truckers tend to call company "Equipment Parking Lots".

    Anyway the truck is actually pretty sound, but it's asking too much to get a straight up 350SB & TH350 to move a warehouse like that down the boulevard. Too much frontal area, too much body IMHO. The "poop" on the unit is it's had 5 engines & 5-6 TH350 A/Ts in it, over 100+K lifetime. In fact 350 I yanked had a Blue Head, Orange Head Yellow Oil Pan, broken bolts, a Black Engine Block, Turquoise 4V Quadra Bog style Intake. . . . That colorfull story told me a lot. They "parked it when the piecemeal engine started sneezing thru the carb everytime throttle was pressed. . . . Know what I mean? From that point on it became a Donor for misc' pieces/ parts before we acquired it for our use. BAsically it's tight, sound, straight, and fairly clean. It was just underpowered & flat wore out as far as the powertrain went. Everything else is pretty good & not all beat up/ worn out.

    We picked up a 86 454 complete with a TH400 and only 78K miles at the hieght of the $4.25 a gallon gasoline deal from a dealer that took a C-2500 Suburban in trade & was unable to sell. It had one of those early, poor mileage, throttle body, speed density EFI set ups. I'm building the 454 to be Carbbed, with an RV High torque Low RPM cam, antipump up lifters, a standard(non ECU controlled) Distribuitor, pulled the Cats off exhaust & blocked all EGR Ports. I have done that before with a friends roll back carrier and nearly doubles his MPG. Of course a rollback carrier has a lot less frontal area 1/2 the time or more and also has a more Aerodunamic profile that a wharehouse on wheels. BUT I suspect the Rat Engine will last a bit longer and work a lot less to move the "bread truck" style config down the road. We'll see I suspect. I am partial to 460 FoMoCo's but I was unable to convince the powers that be to let me put one in that P-3500 GM Chassis. It would have been easy a truck chassis is pretty much a truck chassis when you get up into the 1.5 ton & larger range. Oh Well. . . .

    As I said, it's a pretty F-100 you got there. Keep up the great work, maybe I'll run across ya @ Pigeon Forge 1 of these times, Huh?

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    Post  Lowlid on Thu Oct 08, 2009 9:55 am

    FORDBOYpete wrote: Low Lid,
    That's a far out F-100 you got going on there. I see some pretty fine metal work and great custom Ideas. Whenever I catch a job like that I have to comment positively on the quality & workmanship involved. BTW, Same goes for the engine test bed trailer.

    Being the glutton for punishment & work overload that I am I got my butt into another project I couldn't let pass by. I am involved BIG TIME @ a NAVAL AIR STATION MUSEUM. We picked up an '80 P-3500 Utility Van, with a Union City aluminum 20'-0", "Step Van" body. In fact it's a Dandee Bread & Little Debbie snack products delivery truck with a wore our, beat 350SB & "smoked" TH350-A/T, I mean "wasted". It sat in Co the "junk yard", What we truckers tend to call company "Equipment Parking Lots".

    Anyway the truck is actually pretty sound, but it's asking too much to get a straight up 350SB & TH350 to move a warehouse like that down the boulevard. Too much frontal area, too much body IMHO. The "poop" on the unit is it's had 5 engines & 5-6 TH350 A/Ts in it, over 100+K lifetime. In fact 350 I yanked had a Blue Head, Orange Head Yellow Oil Pan, broken bolts, a Black Engine Block, Turquoise 4V Quadra Bog style Intake. . . . That colorfull story told me a lot. They "parked it when the piecemeal engine started sneezing thru the carb everytime throttle was pressed. . . . Know what I mean? From that point on it became a Donor for misc' pieces/ parts before we acquired it for our use. BAsically it's tight, sound, straight, and fairly clean. It was just underpowered & flat wore out as far as the powertrain went. Everything else is pretty good & not all beat up/ worn out.

    We picked up a 86 454 complete with a TH400 and only 78K miles at the hieght of the $4.25 a gallon gasoline deal from a dealer that took a C-2500 Suburban in trade & was unable to sell. It had one of those early, poor mileage, throttle body, speed density EFI set ups. I'm building the 454 to be Carbbed, with an RV High torque Low RPM cam, antipump up lifters, a standard(non ECU controlled) Distribuitor, pulled the Cats off exhaust & blocked all EGR Ports. I have done that before with a friends roll back carrier and nearly doubles his MPG. Of course a rollback carrier has a lot less frontal area 1/2 the time or more and also has a more Aerodunamic profile that a wharehouse on wheels. BUT I suspect the Rat Engine will last a bit longer and work a lot less to move the "bread truck" style config down the road. We'll see I suspect. I am partial to 460 FoMoCo's but I was unable to convince the powers that be to let me put one in that P-3500 GM Chassis. It would have been easy a truck chassis is pretty much a truck chassis when you get up into the 1.5 ton & larger range. Oh Well. . . .

    As I said, it's a pretty F-100 you got there. Keep up the great work, maybe I'll run across ya @ Pigeon Forge 1 of these times, Huh?

    CIAO from the Bikini State
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    Thanks for the positive comments. I can appreciate how you get into all the extra projects. That has been one of the main
    reasons my F100 has been put on the back burner so many times over the years. I'll find something that I decide won't take that long to put
    together and it usually takes twice as long to complete as originally planned. My engine test stand is a good example. Didn't really have to
    have it, already had a stand that was functional. I just had materials laying around that would build the entire project. Story of my life!!!!!!!!

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    Post  ol'e bob on Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:40 pm

    I havent been doing much. After going to the rec center for my pool exercise Im beat. But I am getting stronger every day. I have worked on the old truck 2 days in a row,2 hrs. each time and it wore me out. Good to hear every one is still kicking and ready to GET ER DONE . Take care. Bob
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    Hang in there Bob. We're all rootin' for you. Just keep chippin' away at it and you will get there.

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    Post  tomget on Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:32 pm

    I've been doing a lot of similar "weatherizing" just like you guys. Including unboxing an old car canopy to help shield my 48IH from the winter rains.I've got two car canopys. I really big 2truck size and a smaller single. The summer sun is just as damaging around here--Yountville Calif--but my trees and such give quite a bit of shade. I've put my rusty hulk 49F1 flathead 6 all OEM in the shop. I still don't know exactly how I'm gonna build that thing. Its an old Georgia state cotton farm truck. I bought it in 2007 from a guy who had two F1's--this was the bigger clunker--and he'd been kinda dragging it around from place to place for the last 20+years. I took the really sweet-to me--50's camper shell made from sheet metal etc--One of the big old round shaped things-It was on the 49F1 and I put it on the better 48F1--The second of the two trucks. The 48F1 is really a sweet truck,with a 312Yblock/4spd OEM 48 floor shifter non sychro/and a early mid 50's Lincoln rear end. It runs etc but needs lots of tlc. Ages ago some kid removed the front inner fender panels so he had room for some big exhaust headers etc. Those things pretty much hold all the front sheet metal together. I'm surprised it doesn't just fall apart. I found some nice replacement inner fenders via Craigs list in Socal, and I want to get crackin on getting them installed and rewiring the truck + tires and similar stuff. Don't plan anything dramatic. Keep it like it is and get it running better etc. Motor/tranny/rear all seem good. Been driving my recently completed 58F100. Its a lot of fun. But the mileage is of course horrible, but I just drive it to the store once in a while. I'm happy. I'm retired from working as a professional window cleaner for the last 20years-I'm 63 and slowing down. But I'm trying to find some work. I just applied for a landscaping job the other day. Not much around here, but I only need the one job. So I keep looking. I get social security, and I'm happy with that. Got my own little house. So I'm doing OK. Been working more on the house than the trucks/painted the north side/did some water line replacement/repainting inside etc. I've lived in this old house since March1980 when I did a big amateur restoration, but since then I've just ignored all the breakage--been too busy building trucks. But now I'm working home repairs into the schedule. Things are going pretty good. Good luck to you guys. Tom













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    Re: What's your story ???

    Post  Darkside Dave on Sat Oct 24, 2009 12:12 am


    Man you got some nice old trucks...

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    Re: What's your story ???

    Post  tomget on Sat Oct 24, 2009 1:02 am

    Thanks Dave. I do like my trucks. And I'm a pretty lucky guy, and luck is what counts.
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    Post  Guest on Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:28 pm

    I moved some stuff from one place to another
    Its not like progress on building a car but its all I've accomplished lately

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    Post  sinndustrial on Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:24 pm

    this may be kind of random, and i know i just recently joined the family, i also recently got a car good enough to call a hot rod ( although all i have done to it as of late is start taking it apart and researching exactly what the car is) but i was wondering if any of you guys would happen to know of a car club in my area (newark, ohio) that i could get into. i definetly need some help with my car, and im not asking anyone to foot the bill, i just need some help with connections and finding parts that are reasonable. it seems like whenever i approach someone about something like buying a motor, for example, people think i am just the dumbest guy they have ever seen and try to railroad me on the price. it has been my dream, literally , to have a car like my 46 since i was just a little kid, let alone actually getting it on the road and serviceable. i am really wanting to either swap some parts that i have now, or maybe at least get a reasonable deal on stuff. please let me know if any of you can help.
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    Post  Guest on Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:55 pm

    Are you real young?
    go to hotrod forums and spend months reading (before you post anything)
    and you will learn a lot quick
    Fordbarn is good
    it has Model T, Model A and every other year Fords covered in stock and hotrod
    the HAMB is extremely full of knowledge about traditional hotrods
    I've heard rumours that there are forums for off-brands like chevy and mopar.......Smile
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    Post  sinndustrial on Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:36 pm

    not so much that im young, just that i have never had a car that i have had to make connections for to put it together. i have had cars in my blood since i could comprehend what a car was, and spent my childhood in the shop with my dad. i have been doing bodywork since i could hold a DA sander.

    thanks for the help.
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    Post  FORDBOYpete on Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:53 pm

    The best way to do what you sound as if you are wanting to do is to start a Project "note book" on your car. 1st describe what you want, and what you want it for. 2nd describe what it is to be when done, 3rd jot down what you are looking for (this will change as you progress). What I'm talking about here is what you want your finished project to actually do/ be. IE: performance, HTP (Head Turning Power) one off custom, time warp (making early 20th century vehicle compatable with 21st century technology and so forth. Next, how much do you want to spend? How much do you plan to spend? How much can you afford to spend?

    What do you want for a power train? What suspension? What handling characteristics? How do you plan or what are your ideas for finish & trim? Are you seeing what I'm telling you? See where this is going? When you know what you want & why you want it, you will better be able to control your destiny to achieve it. Good things take time and you have to spend the time it takes in order to make things good, better or great. . . . Pretty basic tennets Huh?

    By going through all this you take the confusion out of your project. You can formulate a plan that will actually work. Also you learn projects have a tendency to change, morph & grow over time. But if you write your notebook as a "recipe" of what you want to wind up with as a finished project, you'll have a way to know who not to befriend, who understands what you are trying to do/ achieve & what folks You need to get to know. Most of all I'd tell you don't get in over your head, or ahead of yourself. The "Crushers" get a steady diet of unfinished projects because they were not well thought out to begin with & their builders got in over their heads & away from plans & budgets. The steel industry makes a living melting down ill concieved schemes & broken dreams. Don't misunderstand me here, there is a need for dreams & schemes because that's what palns are developed from, but the PLAN is the key here.

    In other words break vehicle down into workable areas or components. Chassis, Suspension, Brakes & Steering, Power train, Drive train, Body & Interior. Go after these in a particular style, Street Rod, Custom, Daily Ride, Show Car, Cruiser, whatever you're looking for & stick to it. But do not be afraid of making changes if you learn they are, or will be for the better yet along the same line/ style you're working in.Once you understand what you want, are looking for & why, you'll find & learn where to turn to achieve all of it.

    Or else you're heading towards a waste of time, emotion, energy, resources, dreams & cash. DO NOT ASK HOW I KNOW THIS! Believe what I say. For until you fully know & understand what it is you actually want, you will be taken advantage of just as you seem to sense you have been already. This is not the case with trick rides only, the world is filled with preditors who take advantage of beginners and innocent victims because the victims are full of hope & dreams, which are really predator bait. Look at Bernie Medaugh, AIG, Bear Sterns ad infinitum. . .

    I AM telling you the only way to prevent that inevitable conclusion is to know what you are doing, and the only way to know what you are doing is to know, or atleast have a clear & good idea of what it is you are after. Once you have that concept & undestanding of it, you'll be able to see & tell when you are heading towards a BOHICA. A BOHICA is: Bend Over Here It Comes Again. Sorry but that's life in the 21st century world we live in. Knowledge brings understanding & understanding brings safety. Good Luck on your new project I believe the guys here on the darkside can help you a lot as you learn. There are some neat folks on thei site, even though it's not all that old, a lot of us are. And old means "Been There- - - - -Done That"


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    Re: What's your story ???

    Post  Guest on Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:01 pm

    In other words, build the engine.
    Only
    Or fix the brakes
    only
    dont tear the car all the way down
    it may seem TOO MUCH to put back together
    but if you do sub assemblies, you get the satisfaction of having each part done before you start another

    Excellent idea to write down what you want to achieve
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    Re: What's your story ???

    Post  Darkside Dave on Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:45 pm


    Believe me Sinndustrial, These guys know what they are talking about. Not only have they been there and done that, but they got the T-shirt and have long since worn the thing out. None of us know everything and we won't all agree on every point made here. However, there is a lot of experience here, albeit a lot from the school of hard knocks. It's up to you to to decide if you want to profit from it.

    From the pictures you have posted I see some raw talent in you that shows a lot of promise for your age. I can see that you aren't afraid to try stuff and that's a good thing. Don't read too much into what we say here other than the core advice given. For the most part we can be a bunch of grouchy old farts. We mean no harm...

    As for getting cheated on stuff, maybe it would be a good idea to run your possible deals by the guys here. We may know a better way or a better deal. That is just one purpose for this board.

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